Over there, over there!
Send the word, send the word, over there!
That the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are coming,
The drums rum-tumming ev’rywhere!
So prepare, say a prayer, send the word, send the word to beware!
We’ll be over, we’re coming over,
And we won’t come back ’til it’s over Over There!*
Angus and Louisa’s two sons George and Lorne both participated in World War I. The two brothers served out of Alaska as indicated on their tombstones. I will talk about the two brothers in this post.
Photo: The photo was sent to me by an individual years ago. He recognized one of the soldiers but unfortunately I do not know for sure if George and Lorne are in this photo? I tried to seek permission from the person to post but they have not responded. So I will post the picture and give the link here to more information. The photo is the last one on the right of the website: http://www.uib.no/People/hhiso/juneau/frontpage.htm
I also tried to find any other website that might have more information about this photograph but did not succeed at this time. I have not done much digging in Alaska history but I do know they have a great archive.
George W. McDonald
George William McDonald born 16 Dec 1892 in Ironwood, Gogebic, Michigan and died in Seattle, Washington on 2 November 1957. Buried in Calvary Cemetery, Seattle, Washington 6 November 1957. As far as I know George did not marry or had any children.
George’s World War I draft card is in two pieces.
He does state that he was born in Ironwood, Michigan. It was signed on Nov. 19, 1917. How much actual service he participated in I do not know. There is more research to be done on George’s life and maybe someday I will have the opportunity.
I have not taken the time to find an obituary notice on George as the above Funeral announcement suggests. It might be very interesting to seek.
Apparently George was a patient at Firland:
“Firland Sanatorium, Seattle’s municipal tuberculosis hospital, opened on May 2, 1911, to help combat what was at the time Seattle’s leading cause of death. Firland was located on 34 acres in the Richmond Highlands area, 12 miles north of the then-border of Seattle (in 2002 this first Firland site falls on the Shoreline/Seattle border). The hospital served there until its move to a former Naval hospital (at 15th Avenue NE and 150th Street) in 1947, and continued to treat TB patients until its dissolution in 1973. A leading founder of Firland Sanatorium was the railroad magnate Horace C. Henry (1844-1928), whose son Walter had died of TB.”
This link at History.Link gives some very interesting information about Firland and pictures as well.
Lorne Sanfield McDonald
Lorne Sanfield McDonald was born 19 January 1894 in Brainerd, Crow Wing Co., Minnesota according to his World War I draft card. I have been to Brainerd on several occasions to do research on my dad’s mother’s family the Barclay’s. I refer you to the right side of this blog for the link to Barclay’s of Pine River.
As far as I know Lorne did not marry or have any children.
Part two of the draft card:
Lorne’s story is very sad. He was one of many who died in World War I of the Spanish Flu epidemic. It hit in several waves and killed more soldiers before they saw combat. Lorne was one of those soldiers. Aunt Miriam wrote about him in her notes:
“Lauren died of influenza in boot camp during WWI. “
When I first tried to research Lorne and the influenza there was nothing on the web at the time. Now there are many articles and websites that discuss this pandemic. It was world-wide and it killed 20-40 million people. This website has some interesting links to survivor stories and more. http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/ Just Google it and you will get hits by the thousands. Here is another site: http://1918.pandemicflu.gov/
We live in a world with treatments for these illnesses like pneumonia, tuberculosis and influenza but back then they did not. Remember the flu is viral and requires different treatment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza
George, the brother, apparently was assigned to go and retrieve Lorne’s body from Camp Dodge where he passed. Rachel the younger sister wrote to my Aunt Miriam in a letter about the events surrounding Lorne’s death:
Jan 2, 1977 – Dear Miriam and Jean: Hope you wont mind if I make one letter both of you. I have tried to make note of dates you wanted but not to proud that I do not have more information. Several years ago Helena was leaving for Japan with her son and family and being born in Canada needed certain information. Well I went to customs as I knew Dad had taken out U.S. papers but because I was born here, I couldn’t get any news. Helena later found the information she needed, but I never knew.
My Dad was a restless man, never stayed in one place long, that is how we went to Juneau, Alaska. He had several good jobs finally was back in Seattle. My brothers went in the army – the 14th Infantry – went to Fort Seward, Haines, Alaska, then shipped out to Camp Dodge, Iowa, where Loren died of the flu in 1918. George was assigned to bring Loren home and buried in Calvary Cemetery. That was our first hard blow to all of us.
I think a gentlemen called at house to trace Dad’s “tree” so Dad told ___ – The man was so elated to trace back to some King – Dad just smoked his pipe and said – I don’t think the Kings credit would be worth a dam at our grocery story. So you see there was not much history to look up. If I have not given the info – you would need – let me know.
I have not seen Helena for several years – guess she & Jim thought Gerry and I were a couple of Hillbillies for settling here but we are happy here and we think this mountain town is beautiful. Today we had a little snow and we hope for more. I know this letter is a “jumble” but chalk it up to old age. I am just over the effects of a Swine Flue shot, and believe me I would rather have the flu. Three weeks of pain and misery. Must ring off and hope you girls will have a very good 1977….
I was very excited to find this letter among the papers of my Aunt Miriam. Rachel tells me so much I already had determined about Angus’s personality and more about her brother Lorne. She was living in Darrington, Washington at the time she wrote this letter. I actually went up to Darrington to see if I could find out more about them. I walked the cemetery there but didn’t find their graves till later. There is more in this letter that verifies for me the family history but because of living descendants I will hold off. The city website of Darrington has some wonderful pictures: http://town.darrington.wa.us/
Camp Dodge was in Iowa http://www.iowanationalguard.com/Museum/IA_History/BuildingCampDodge.htm
Another challenge with Lorne was the spelling of his first name. I now go with what was written on his tombstone and draft card. On his draft card he wrote that his name is “Lorne Sanfield McDonald.” Again we have the reference to the name “Sanfield.” Ronald his cousin and Keith’s father was “Ronald Sanfield McDonald.” Miriam wrote they were named after the Premier of Ontario. I am still keeping an open mind on that topic.
There is much more I could do on George and Lorne but as always time, money and focus can take you away. I do know that they rest peacefully next to their parents in Calvary Cemetery in Seattle.
*World War I Music and Songs: http://www.ww1photos.com/WW1MusicIndex.html